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		<title>By: Mack</title>
		<link>http://tete-tete-tete.com/35/more-outrage/comment-page-1/#comment-52</link>
		<dc:creator>Mack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jul 2006 17:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I lived on the Upper East side of Manhattan for about nine years and for a couple of years dated a girl who lived just across the park. It never ocurred to me even once to ride throught the park after midnight to or fro. Yes, the NYPD would be obligated to go in after you if you got in trouble there, but wtf? How could a reasonable person assign the blame to NYC for not physically restraining them from going? 

Yes, we are obligated to get them out because they're Americans and we can't turn our backs on them, and I understand that many of them are visiting family, and their timing just happened to suck worse than usual; that's the way it is. But c'mon - let's not try to reassign the blame. They had to have known that it was dangerous, but they were just banking on it not going off while they were there. These were not hidden or unknown dangers, just underestimated risks; I don't think anybody believed that it would break wide open like it did (except the guys and gals at State that write the tourist warnings).

Bottom line, the American taxpayers are footing the bill for their choice of vacation spot, just like taxpayers often foot the bill for motorcyclists who don't believe in wearing helmets or drivers who don't believe in seat belts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I lived on the Upper East side of Manhattan for about nine years and for a couple of years dated a girl who lived just across the park. It never ocurred to me even once to ride throught the park after midnight to or fro. Yes, the NYPD would be obligated to go in after you if you got in trouble there, but wtf? How could a reasonable person assign the blame to NYC for not physically restraining them from going? </p>
<p>Yes, we are obligated to get them out because they&#8217;re Americans and we can&#8217;t turn our backs on them, and I understand that many of them are visiting family, and their timing just happened to suck worse than usual; that&#8217;s the way it is. But c&#8217;mon - let&#8217;s not try to reassign the blame. They had to have known that it was dangerous, but they were just banking on it not going off while they were there. These were not hidden or unknown dangers, just underestimated risks; I don&#8217;t think anybody believed that it would break wide open like it did (except the guys and gals at State that write the tourist warnings).</p>
<p>Bottom line, the American taxpayers are footing the bill for their choice of vacation spot, just like taxpayers often foot the bill for motorcyclists who don&#8217;t believe in wearing helmets or drivers who don&#8217;t believe in seat belts.</p>
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		<title>By: RSA</title>
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		<dc:creator>RSA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 21:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That's what I thought as well.  I think that expectations about what can be done to address the situation are separate from how one gets into a situation in the first place.  Peretz doesn't seem to care about the difference.  I can imagine him as a doctor, asking how a patient got his injuries, before he goes in to save him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s what I thought as well.  I think that expectations about what can be done to address the situation are separate from how one gets into a situation in the first place.  Peretz doesn&#8217;t seem to care about the difference.  I can imagine him as a doctor, asking how a patient got his injuries, before he goes in to save him.</p>
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		<title>By: smijer</title>
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		<dc:creator>smijer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 17:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One has to wonder what his point is... I mean is he asking us to step from, "they ignored warnings" to "it's their own fault", and from there to "they deserve what they get", and then "so screw 'em"... ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One has to wonder what his point is&#8230; I mean is he asking us to step from, &#8220;they ignored warnings&#8221; to &#8220;it&#8217;s their own fault&#8221;, and from there to &#8220;they deserve what they get&#8221;, and then &#8220;so screw &#8216;em&#8221;&#8230; ?</p>
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