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I’m generally pro health reform and against deatherism. But here’s a thought for people pushing hard for government involvement in health reform.

After AIG and Katrina, do you want to put your health in the hands of a Republican government?

Just a thought.

17 comments to Deep Thought

  • Buck

    My health is in my own hands.

    I would just as soon the government shuffle the papers as the insurance companies.

    Wasn’t AIG an insurance company?

  • Yes, but not a medical one. If your health is in your own hands, you’re sitting pretty. I hope that someday I can say the same.

  • This is a popular song sung by the right. But remember, the Federal government agencies that brought you the Katrina disaster was staffed by carefully selected incompetents by those whose ideology wanted to show that the government would fail. The same agencies, staffed by motivated experts and professionals, performed well in earlier disasters, albeit less calamitous ones. It’s pretty easy to shout “government incompetence” when you have stacked the deck.

  • Well, that was kind of my point Patrick. That’s why I said “Republican government”. This is a problem we don’t find in nations where conservatives aren’t Randians.

  • RW

    If only we’d had a local government during Katrina that was staffed mainly by Democrats.
    Even better, if it was local & closer to the scene.
    Moreso, if the government had long been cleansed of Republicans.

    [rolleyes]

  • DON’T YOU ROLL YOUR EYES AT ME YOUNG MAN!

    You know why people don’t talk about systemic failures of local government during Katrina? Because failures of local government during Katrina were dwarfed by systemic failures in the Federal government – from an agency that used to have a sterling reputation for responding to this type of crisis. From an agency staffed by cronies and those whose core ideology is that the agency should not exist or serve the function for which it was created.

    It is a legitimate question – even for people who feel comfortable putting the health care system into the domain of a federal entity – do you trust that entity to function when it is staffed by people whose core ideology prevents them from managing it effectively.

    NOW WIPE THAT LOOK OFF YOUR FACE & STRAIGHTEN UP BEFORE I HAVE TO PULL THIS BLOG OVER!

  • RW

    You know why people don’t talk about systemic failures of local government during Katrina?
    Yes, I know exactly why. It’s the same reason we don’t hear about the Iraq war, any more.

    Because failures of local government during Katrina were dwarfed by systemic failures in the Federal government – from an agency that used to have a sterling reputation for responding to this type of crisis.

    They failed, miserably, no doubt.
    Worked just fine in Mississippi, though. Funny, we heard little about the unbelievable devastation along the gulf shores line. Oh, I remember: Haley Barbour knew what he was doing.

    do you trust that entity to function when it is staffed by people whose core ideology prevents them from managing it effectively.

    You’ll have to forgive the Republican party for falling short of the governmental efficiency levels that has been personified by the Democratic machines in New Jersey, Chicago, Detroit, D.C. and Philly.

    At some point, you guys are going to have to deal with managing things, instead of constantly saying “but, the GOP sucks worse!”. The GOP can’t do squat. Go ahead, bring on the ‘machine’ of the DNC. Just remember, not everyone wants to be Detoit.

    My, the Dems have done a bang-up job in Michigan….

  • Worked just fine in Mississippi, though.

    Yeah, I used to travel US 90 and I-10 from Mobile to New Orleans a lot. I enjoyed taking in the huge population centers that dotted the southern Mississippi landscape. Pascagoula, Moss Point, …. Logtown.

    Haley Barbour really rose to the challenge, didn’t he?

  • RW

    Dude, I know some folks in MS that lost everything. It wasn’t a ‘nothing’ just because Geraldo was covering the Super Dome, instead. Entire neighborhoods were wiped clean. Not trying to correlate it or anything, just sayin that belief in lower taxes and a stronger local versus centralized government isn’t conducive towards a higher or lower competency level in management.

    After all, if we were to poll the successful business (large and small) in the country & ask if they were being run by Republicans or Democrats, I’m not so sure that the answer would be to the liking of your premise.

    Haley Barbour really rose to the challenge, didn’t he?

    If Mike Brown, Ray Nagin and Kathleen Blanco had risen on a par with Barbour, LA would’ve been a lot better off. It just wasn’t as newsworthy. Like Cindy Sheehan isn’t as newsworthy….

  • RW

    BTW, please don’t pull the blog over. :)

  • It’s time for some one to get out of the blog and start walking. Just saying.

  • Ok – I don’t mean to minimize anything that happened to southern MSippians. I’m just saying that you could have put everyone that lives on the southern MS coast into the cheap seats of the Superdome. The challenges in MS and rural LA were nothing compared to New Orleans. It’s such a different scenario, that I can’t think of a way to make a meaningful comparison.

  • <<>>.

    But then again, I wouldn’t necessarily be all that much worse off than I am now (with the state’s United Health Care “coverage”), and I’m one of the lucky ones who HAS private “coverage.”

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  • California has been run by Democrats for ages, and since 1990 gerrymandered too – and it’s working GREAT, dotnthcha think?!
    We even produce some stellar girl politicians at the National level, like Babs and Nancy and Dianne. Arnold is pretty much just a figurehead and semi-Kennedy-relative, and he came to realize he had to adopt the “moderate” agenda when his own was crushed by The Central Committee. The SEIU and various Unions run the state with the help of tireless-serving Democrat legislatures who receive their union cadre wages and carefully spend them to the benefit and betterment of all, citizen and non-citizen alike. Be like us! Become Californian!

  • I’ll pass on being like California – but get rid of your constitutional provision for ballot initiatives before you start holding your elected officials up for scorn. Y’all have no one to blame but yourselves.

  • Ballot initiatives are the only way effective means for local citizens to get any traction in Sacramento. Since the time of Jerrry Brown’s dad and Jesse Unruh there has been little real distinguishable difference between Republican and Democrat trough-feeders and dealmakers who feather their own nest or populate a “commission” with their friends and relatives.
    And there are countless astrotuf ballot initiatives that are bought and paid-for by special interests too, so fraught with legalese loophole-language and trickery that you could read a newspaper through them. At least the whole bill is presented for everyone to read in the Ballot, as much mumbo-jumbo and fine-print as it is, so a lot of them get shot-down in flames – which is part of the fun and entertainment of politics here. Seldom does anybody vote for something as much as against it.

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