http://tete-tete-tete.com/2009/02/relation-versus-belief/ Wed, 21 Dec 2011 07:49:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.1 http://tete-tete-tete.com/2009/02/relation-versus-belief/comment-page-1/#comment-2363 Michael Fri, 06 Feb 2009 21:28:57 +0000 http://tete-tete-tete.com/?p=863#comment-2363 Thanks for engaging in this and for connecting those two sermons. You, of course, know what I base my filter on, since you read the sermon. I appreciate your thoughts on the subject. Thanks for engaging in this and for connecting those two sermons. You, of course, know what I base my filter on, since you read the sermon. I appreciate your thoughts on the subject.

]]> http://tete-tete-tete.com/2009/02/relation-versus-belief/comment-page-1/#comment-2364 Ron Thu, 05 Feb 2009 16:28:01 +0000 http://tete-tete-tete.com/?p=863#comment-2364 Nice post, smijer! I've been talking along those lines for a while now at my websites. The emphasis on correctness of belief sure seems to miss the mark in our particular mode of liberal religion. The old radical Reformation idea of "holy spirit" is taken far too literally, seems to me, and I would suggest that pres. Obama is described that "spirit" as well as anybody in his talk this morning at the prayer breakfast, saying that... "Too often, we have seen faith wielded as a tool to divide us from one another." Some may--and obviously do--see it differently, but I too (silly Universalist that I am) see "the holy spirit" as a spirit that ultimately unites instead of divides, regardless of our particular opinions in matters of theology or the Great Mystery. Nice post, smijer! I’ve been talking along those lines for a while now at my websites. The emphasis on correctness of belief sure seems to miss the mark in our particular mode of liberal religion. The old radical Reformation idea of “holy spirit” is taken far too literally, seems to me, and I would suggest that pres. Obama is described that “spirit” as well as anybody in his talk this morning at the prayer breakfast, saying that… “Too often, we have seen faith wielded as a tool to divide us from one another.” Some may–and obviously do–see it differently, but I too (silly Universalist that I am) see “the holy spirit” as a spirit that ultimately unites instead of divides, regardless of our particular opinions in matters of theology or the Great Mystery.

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