Comments on: Or, What about This? http://tete-tete-tete.com/187/or-what-about-this/ Tue, 18 Nov 2008 22:20:56 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: smijer http://tete-tete-tete.com/187/or-what-about-this/#comment-689 smijer Wed, 13 Dec 2006 20:47:10 +0000 http://tete-tete-tete.com/187/or-what-about-this/#comment-689 He really isn't that much "different" than the mainstream Dem party right now. He's more liberal than the DNCers who support him. He's willing to lead on the environment rather than just trying to score well on the interest group scorecards by voting the right way on this or that. But all that's not so important to me. Ideologies come and go, and often get bogged down by special interests and party politics. Put the progressives with a smart leader in their own party, and the differences will become more apparent. He really isn’t that much “different” than the mainstream Dem party right now. He’s more liberal than the DNCers who support him. He’s willing to lead on the environment rather than just trying to score well on the interest group scorecards by voting the right way on this or that.

But all that’s not so important to me. Ideologies come and go, and often get bogged down by special interests and party politics. Put the progressives with a smart leader in their own party, and the differences will become more apparent.

]]> By: RW http://tete-tete-tete.com/187/or-what-about-this/#comment-687 RW Wed, 13 Dec 2006 18:47:00 +0000 http://tete-tete-tete.com/187/or-what-about-this/#comment-687 Just wondering: what was Lieberman's "plot"? And what about Gore puts him anywhere but in the mainstream of the Democratic party, especially to the point that it would make Gore bolt for another political party? He epitomizes the DNC, as evidenced by his being the party's choice the last time he ran for office? <i>Then again, Lieberman was the choice for #2 back then, Ricky, so....</i> Just wondering: what was Lieberman’s “plot”? And what about Gore puts him anywhere but in the mainstream of the Democratic party, especially to the point that it would make Gore bolt for another political party? He epitomizes the DNC, as evidenced by his being the party’s choice the last time he ran for office?

Then again, Lieberman was the choice for #2 back then, Ricky, so….

]]> By: smijer http://tete-tete-tete.com/187/or-what-about-this/#comment-685 smijer Wed, 13 Dec 2006 16:55:25 +0000 http://tete-tete-tete.com/187/or-what-about-this/#comment-685 I see the Green Party as it stands now as being too extremist on some points, and too unfocused on other points to be viable - either politically, or in terms of providing leadership. Yeah - they would certainly have a lot in common with the progressive wing of the democratic party - but if they peel away part of that progressive wing, the democratic party and the green party would look fairly different. As time and evolution continued, each would build platforms independently based on the values & ideologies of their respective constituents. The apparatus & the money will no longer intermingle, and the competition between the parties will provide more incentive for oversight and checks on power between the three parties. That's the utopian version of it, anyway. I see the Green Party as it stands now as being too extremist on some points, and too unfocused on other points to be viable - either politically, or in terms of providing leadership.

Yeah - they would certainly have a lot in common with the progressive wing of the democratic party - but if they peel away part of that progressive wing, the democratic party and the green party would look fairly different. As time and evolution continued, each would build platforms independently based on the values & ideologies of their respective constituents. The apparatus & the money will no longer intermingle, and the competition between the parties will provide more incentive for oversight and checks on power between the three parties. That’s the utopian version of it, anyway.

]]> By: dave http://tete-tete-tete.com/187/or-what-about-this/#comment-684 dave Wed, 13 Dec 2006 16:33:49 +0000 http://tete-tete-tete.com/187/or-what-about-this/#comment-684 Hmmm...interesting. I am not sure that the Green Party would still be the Green Party without their "radicalest elements of socialism and infused with a touch of national security earnestness." I also think that if you do that to the Green Party, you essentially become the progressive wing of the Democrat Party, don't you think? How would it be that different? Hmmm…interesting. I am not sure that the Green Party would still be the Green Party without their “radicalest elements of socialism and infused with a touch of national security earnestness.”

I also think that if you do that to the Green Party, you essentially become the progressive wing of the Democrat Party, don’t you think? How would it be that different?

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